1982 BMW 323i Baur

1982 BMW 323i Baur
Memorial Day 2010 First Drive 1982 323i BMW Baur Lapisblau M20 5 speed #4154 of 4595 made. The car was imported to California by Dietel Enterprises. I have since changed the wheels, installed the clear turn signal lenses, and I am in the process of installing a new cabriolet roof. I have to do something about those bumpers, too. :) I love this car! To see one of the reasons why, check my post "Score One For the Good Guys" on 6/26/2011.

Thursday, July 2, 2015

1979 BMW 320i Baur Convertible - $13500 (Silver Spring)

Thanks to Tom W. (a former Baur owner) in DC for the heads up on this beauty!  And, yes, folks, this is another example of 'Small Baur World'!  We have seen this Baur (#689) before!    I love this stuff!
Here is Baur #689 as it appears in the International Baur Registry**.

 I spoke to, Greg, the owner, this afternoon on the phone.  We had a great chat while he was enroute to SC.   He told me that he formerly owned a 1977 E21 back in the day, and that he had always wanted a Baur.  (The 1977 E21, btw, is a very sought after E21 model!   2.0L fuel injected engine with the big front vented brakes!)

However, he is a busy guy with a couple of cars these days, and he finds that he just doesn't drive this  Baur enough.  So it is on the market.

As it turns out..... We know this Baur!  It is Baur #689!  That is  #689 out of a total of 4595 built.  so this is an early model.  We have seen it up close and personal at the Vintage at Saratoga on two different occasions, and under two different owners!  Some folks may recall that I love the E21s in white, and this Baur is no exception!  Beautiful!

You will notice that, although the rear badge says '320', this is not a 320 engine.   A previous owner swapped out the original 320/6 and installed a 325i engine from an E30.  I love the original carbureted 320/6, but... the 325i is a common swap for the E21, and it is a great engine in its own right.  It is not original (for the purists) but it is a bigger, more modern engine.  It is pretty bulletproof.  

*Baurspotting has done several previous posts on this Baur.  Check them out!


Here it is in 2012 at Saratoga, when it was owned by Greg..... who sold it to Ernie.  Here it is again at Saratoga in 2013, when Ernie owned it:

Too funny!  Small Baur World!

Seller's comments:
I am selling my 1979 BMW 320i Baur Special Edition Convertible. This a very special collectible BMW. There were only three 1979 models officially imported in 1979 and this car has a history of appearing in may car shows. It has a fuel injected 6 cylinder engine coupled with a smooth 5spd manual transmission that provides great pickup and a truly exhilarating driving experience. 

Please email me if you have questions about the car. Make me an offer 

Please, I don't need help with selling the car so don't ask. I can be contacted at,

three zero one - two one three - nine four one three.

1979 BMW 320i Baur
condition: excellent
cylinders: 6 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: gas
odometer: 64500
paint color: white
size: compact
title status: clean
transmission: manual
type: convertible

Congratulations to Greg, and welcome to Baurspotting!  This is a beautiful Baur, destined to be a Collectible!    Are you sure you want to sell?  


Just kidding!  Good luck with your sale, and please let us know how you make out!  We are rooting for you to get your price!  A rising tide raises all ships!


I found a few more pics from the other Baur Registry:


Uber-Rare 1974 BMW 2004! This is NOT a Misprint! ;)

UPDATE 8:45pm 7/2/2015: New Pics of a BMW 2004 from our friend Alvin Chua!**

That's right!  A 2004!  If the 2002 was the 2 door version of the BMW 2000, what do you imagine the 2004 would be?

You guessed it:  a four door version of the 2000!  OK, sort of.  The 2004 and the 1804 were built in the years 1973/1974 by BMW in South Africa to succeed the models 2000 SA and 1800 SA.  It is based on the Glas 1700.  Read the whole story and see more exclusive pics below!

We know that this model was discussed a while back in the 2002FAQ, but we have a special treat for you today!  We were contacted this week by Ashley Naidoo, a Baur owner in South Africa, who happened to mention his 'other' car, a BMW 2004.  At first I thought he must have made a typo, and that he really meant a BMW 2002.  So when I inquired further, this is his response:
Ashley Naidoo: 2004. I believe they were exclusive to south africa and a few other countries only. It's a 4 door. I'm still busy getting her to showroom condition.

Yikes!  I could not have been MORE wrong!   :)

His 'other' car is one of the rare South Africa-only BMW 2004s!  Whoa!  According to Wikipedia, it appears that they were built in South Africa, and appeared in two versions:   the 2004 and the 1804.  Only 1404 examples were built, and 588 of those came with automatic transmission*.

Ashley has graciously consented to share some pics of his 1974 2004.  And here they are!

These first two pics are available on the Internet, and were in fact posted in the FAQ.   They show a 1973 2004.

But scroll down a little further .... to see some exclusive pics of Ashley's 1974 BMW 2004!

Special Treat today:

I love it! 


This is a real treat!  Thank you again, Ashley!  ;)

*From Wikipedia, translation by Google Translate:

The BMW 2004 and the BMW 1804 are weaker motorized cars of the upper middle class, which were built in the years 1973/1974 from BMW South Africa to succeed the models 2000 SA and 1800 SA.

The BMW 2004 has been equipped with the drive of manufactured in Germany until 1972 BMW 2000. This was a four-cylinder engine with 1990 cc (bore x stroke = 89 mm × 80 mm) and 74 kW (100 hp) at 5800 min-1, in combination with a 4-speed manual transmission with floor shift (type 2004) or a 3-speed automatic transmission (type 2004 A).

The BMW 1804 (90 hp) equipped with a four-cylinder engine with 1767 cc capacity and 66 kW at 5800 min-1.

The body of the exclusively as 4-door sedan manufactured car was based on that of the glass 1700. The front was provided with the radiator grille and the flashing lights of the BMW 2800 CS and the twin headlights of the BMW 520. Also the BMW 520 came the taillights.

Emerged in two years in 1404 copies, of which 588 with automatic transmission.

External links [edit]
 Commons: BMW 2004 - collection of pictures, videos and audio files
Source [edit]
Vehicle description of BMW Classic at the classic car exhibition in Fürstenfeld on 20. / 21. September 2008

Der BMW 2004 und der schwächer motorisierte BMW 1804 sind PKWs der oberen Mittelklasse, die in den Jahren 1973/1974 vonBMW Südafrika als Nachfolger der Modelle 2000 SA und 1800 SA gebaut wurden.
Der BMW 2004 war mit dem Antrieb des in Deutschland bis 1972 gefertigten BMW 2000 ausgestattet. Dies war ein Vierzylinder-Reihenmotor mit 1990 cm³ Hubraum (Bohrung × Hub = 89 mm × 80 mm) und 74 kW (100 PS) Leistung bei 5800 min−1, in Verbindung mit einem 4-Gang-Schaltgetriebe mit Mittelschaltung (Typ 2004) oder einer 3-stufigen Getriebeautomatik (Typ 2004 A).
Der BMW 1804 war mit einem Vierzylinder-Reihenmotor mit 1767 cm³ Hubraum und 66 kW (90 PS) Leistung bei 5800 min−1ausgestattet.
Die Karosserie des ausschließlich als 4-türige Limousine gefertigten Wagens basierte auf der des Glas 1700. Die Front war mit dem Kühlergrill und den Blinkleuchten des BMW 2800 CS und den Doppelscheinwerfern des BMW 520 versehen. Ebenfalls vom BMW 520 stammten die Rückleuchten.
In zwei Jahren entstanden 1404 Exemplare, davon 588 mit Automatikgetriebe.


 Commons: BMW 2004 – Sammlung von Bildern, Videos und Audiodateien


Fahrzeugbeschreibung von BMW CLASSIC auf der Oldtimerausstellung in Fürstenfeld am 20./21. September 2008


The BMW 2004 was discussed briefly a while back in the 2002FAQ:

Thank you for sharing, Ashley, and we look forward to hearing more about both of your cars!  And I haven't even mentioned his Baur, which is how this whole conversation with Ashley started! 

(*To see Ashley's Baur, which turns out top be ANOTHER Small Baur World story, click this link:   http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2015/06/1982-323i-baur-near-johannesburg-sa.html)

Stay tuned for more!

Scroll down for more pics of the 1973 BMW 2004 from the Internet:

BMW 2004 - 2,0 Liter 100PS - Sept. 1973 - 74 
Unter BMW-Regie wurde bereits bei GLAS in Dingolfing ein Prototyp eines verbesserten Glas 1700 mit BMW Technik und einem Facelift im BMW-Stil samt Rundinstrumenten entwickelt und gebaut. Im Gegensatz zum späteren BMW 1804/2004 wurde bei diesem Prototyp allerdings die Heckpartie original vom GLAS 1700 übernommen. Dazu zählen ebenso wie die 1700er Rücklichter auch der zum Heck hin gegenüber den Seitenteilen tiefer liegenden Kofferdeckel, eine Styling Marotte von Frua. Das wurde für den Serienbau in Südafrika dann später geändert. Kofferraumdeckel und Seitenteile hatten von dort an die gleiche Höhe.
Die Front des Prototypen glich bereits der des späteren 2004 bzw. war mit ihm ziemlich identisch. Entworfen wurde auch diese Änderung bei Frua. Am Heck, auf den Raddeckeln und über der BMW-Niere an der Front waren die BMW-Plaketten angebracht. Der BMW-Schriftzug 2000 SA befand sich bem Prototypen neben dem BMW-Zeichen rechts am Heck. Jegliche Gedanken, eine solchermaßen verbesserte BMW-GLAS-Limousine auch auf dem deutschen und europäischen Markt anzubieten, wurde jedoch wegen der hausinternen Konkurrenz zur "Neuen Klasse" von München verworfen. 
Es dauerte jedoch noch bis 1973, bis diese Karosserieänderungen als Typ 1804 und 2004 in Serie gehen konnten. Wie bereits erwähnt wurden auch diese Karosserieänderungen durch Frua durchgeführt. Dieser wollte die entsprechenden Bleche durch Bocarthi pressen lassen. Wegen eines Streiks dort gab es jedoch enorme Probleme, erst eine Dingolfinger Mannschaft war im August 1973 in der Lage die Arbeiten unter Schwierigkeiten vor Ort auszuführen. Bocarthi selber traute sich wegen des Streiks nicht mehr in seine eigenen Hallen. Von dort gingen die Bleche dann zu Frua, wo sie beschnitten, umgebördelt und gefinished wurden, während in Südafrika parallel die Produktionsvorbereitungen für die gefaceliftete Version vorbereitet wurde. Per Luftfracht gingen die Frontbleche dann partienweise nach Südafrika, wo man dringend auf die Teile wartete. Es wurden in  8 Wochen ca. 1000 Satz fertiggestellt, anschließend gingen die Maschinen zur Überarbeitung per LKW nach Dingolfing und vermutlich wurden die weiteren benötigten Bleche auch dort hergestellt und bearbeitet, event auch später nach Südafrika gebracht. Noch im August konnte so die Fertigung des 1804/2004 anlaufen. Die Auslieferung begann im September 1973. Beim 1804 und 2004 wurden auch die zu Anfang gewünschten Rundinstrumente verwirklicht. Frontscheinwerfer und Heckleuchten stammten vom BMW 5er E12, die Heckleuchten wurden jedoch "auf den Kopf gestellt" eingepaßt. Das bereits seit 1970 gemietete und sogleich bezogene Werk wurde im März 1973 endgültig durch BMW käuflich erworben und firmierte seitdem unter BMW SA ( Pty ) Ltd. Vormals befanden sich hier die Jeep Fertigungsanlagen. Produziert wurden vermutlich vom 1804 wurden etwa 570 Einheiten, vom BMW 2004 mehr als doppelt so viele: 1288 Stück (basierend auf den Meldungen der Verkaufszahlen). Gesamtzahl der 04-Modelle also 1858 Einheiten. 1974 wurde die Produktion eingestellt.
In dieser Form ( 004 Typen genannt ) lief die Produktion bis Mitte 1974, als BMW die originale 5er Serie ( E12 ) zur Fertigung in Südafrika freigab. Der E12 war in Deutschland ausgelaufen und dessen südafrikanische Produktion begann Mitte 1974 zunächst mit dem Modell (520 ( Typ E12/8 ), etwas später folgte der 518. 
Es stellt sich nun die Frage, warum die Karosserieänderung an der GLAS-Karosserie überhaupt durchgeführt wurden und warum diese Version dann nur für so kurze Zeit produziert wurde. Zunächst gab es in München wichtigere Dinge für die Entwicklungsabteilung und damit keine Kapazitäten für solche relativ unwichtig erscheinenden Änderungen. Selber war man in Südafrika nicht in der Lage ein Facelift dieses Ausmasses durchzuführen. Da die Qualität der durch PRETOR ausgelieferten BMW 1800 SA und 2000SA im Vergleich zu den "echten" Münchener Produkten dermaßen mangelhaft gewesen sein muß, war ein Schnitt und totaler Imagewandel vonnöten. Im Volksmund sprach man sogar über diesen BMW von 'Blik Met Wiele' ( Blech mit Rädern ). Der erste Schritt dazu war ein neues Styling. Front und Heck des ehemaligen GLAS sollten im Design etwas 'BMW-tpischer' werden, brachte jedoch im Endeffekt keine durchgreifende Verbesserung. Erst mit Einführung der BMW 5er E12 Baureihe konnte wieder der BMW-typische Qualitätsstandart erreicht werden. Es kostete viele Mühen, Geduld und Arbeit, um BMW wieder den Namen zu verschaffen, den die Firma heute als erfolgreichstes und modernstes Automobilunternehmen in Südafrika genießt. 
   BMW 2004 to 2.0 liter 100PS - Sept. 1973-74

Under BMW-directed a prototype of an improved glass in 1700 with BMW technology and a facelift for the BMW-style velvet circular instruments designed and built already at GLAS in Dingolfing. In contrast to the later BMW 1804/2004, however, the rear end was taken over by the original Glas 1700 with this prototype. For this purpose as well as the 1700s taillights include the towards the rear relative to the side parts deeper trunk lid, a styling quirk of Frua. This was then changed for serial in South Africa later. Trunk lid and side panels had from there to the same height.

The front of the prototypes already resembled the later of 2004 and was pretty much the same with him. Was also designed this change at Frua. At the rear, on the Raddeckeln and the BMW kidney at the front, the BMW plaques were attached. The BMW lettering 2000 SA was located next to the BMW prototypes bem-sign right at the stern. Any thoughts, a thus improved BMW GLASS Limousine offer on the German and European markets, but was rejected because of the in-house competition for the "New Class" of Munich.

But it took until 1973 and until this body changes could go as Type 1804 and 2004 Series. These body changes are As mentioned above performed by Frua. This wanted to press the corresponding sheets by Bocarthi. Because of a strike there but there was enormous problems, only a Dingolfinger team was in August 1973 in the location that works with difficulty perform locally. Bocarthi himself dared because of the strike no longer in its own warehouses. From there, the sheets then went to Frua where they circumcised were crimped and finishing takes while in South Africa parallel production preparations was prepared for gefaceliftete version. Airfreight the front panels then went batches to South Africa, where they were waiting desperately on the parts. It was completed in 8 weeks 1000 set, then the machine went to revision by truck to Dingolfing, and probably the other required sheets were produced and processed there, event also brought to South Africa later. As late as August was so the production of 1804/2004 start. Deliveries began in September 1973. In 1804 and 2004, the required beginning circular instruments have been realized. Headlights and rear lights came from the BMW 5 Series E12, the rear lights were but "turned upside down" fitted. The rented since 1970 and immediately related work was acquired in March 1973 by BMW definitive sale and since renamed under BMW SA (Pty) Ltd. Former here were the Jeep production facilities. Produced were probably from 1804 were approximately 570 units of the BMW 2004, more than twice as many 1288 piece (based on the reports of sales figures). Total number of 04 models ie 1858 units. 1974 production was stopped.

In this form (004 types mentioned) the production ran until mid-1974, when BMW released the original 5 Series (E12) for manufacturing in South Africa. The E12 was leaked in Germany and its South African production began mid-1974 with the first model (520 (type E12 / 8), a little later, the 518th

It raises the question of why the body changes were carried out at the glass body at all and why this version was produced only for such a short time. At first there was in Munich more important things for the development department and thus no capacity for such relatively unimportant appearing changes. Same it was in South Africa will not be able to perform a facelift of this magnitude. Since the quality of the delivered by PRETOR BMW 1800 SA and 2000SA "real" compared to the Munich products must have been so deficient, a cut and total image change was needed. Popularly one even talked about this BMW by 'Blik Met Wiele' (plate with wheels). The first step was a new styling. Front and rear of the former GLAS should something 'BMW tpischer' are in design, but in the end did not yield any major improvement. It was only with the introduction of the BMW 5 Series E12 could be reached again the BMW-typical quality standards. It took a lot of effort, patience and work to get back to give BMW the name that the company enjoys as the most successful and most modern automobile company in South Africa today.

More info:


**Thanks to Alvin Chua for these pics of the BMW 2004 at the Bavaria Tour 2011.

Wow!  Thanks, Alvin!

Ok, a new pic from our friend Mike in NC, also from the Bavaria 2011 Tour!

Thank you, Mike!  

CONTACT! Long-Sought Tunisian Baur "Comes In From The Cold"!

Some readers may recall our post a while back about our friend, Amine K., and his E21 Baur in Tunisia.  In addition to sharing his own Baur project, Amine did some Baurspotting and sent us numerous Baurs he had found, including another Baur in Tunisia.  

Thanks to Amine, and the Baur Registry, we knew that there was a red Baur somewhere in Tunisia.  But we weren't sure where it was.  Amine was able to track it down for us!  And we are now pleased to announce that we have been contacted this week by the owner of that red Baur!   Please welcome Illyes F. of Tunisia to Baurspotting!

The pics above were sent to us by Amine, and found on a webpage under the name "Red".  But we did not know who "Red' was.  Now we do!

The pic above is the original pic that was listed in the Baur Registry site (bmwe21baur.npage.de ) as a Baur that had been spotted, but not yet identified or located, other than that it was believed to be in Tunisia.

Here are some pics sent to us this week by Ilyes showing some of the work that he has been doing on his Baur.

It is coming along nicely, and we look forward to seeing more as the project progresses!

So stay tuned!

Congratulations Ilyes, and Welcome to Baurspotting!

Here are some other Baurspotting posts about this Baur and Amine's Baur also:



Amine's Baur: