1982 BMW 323i Baur

1982 BMW 323i Baur
Memorial Day 2010 First Drive 1982 323i BMW Baur Lapisblau M20 5 speed #4154 of 4595 made. The car was imported to California by Dietel Enterprises. I have since changed the wheels, installed the clear turn signal lenses, and I am in the process of installing a new cabriolet roof. I have to do something about those bumpers, too. :) I love this car! To see one of the reasons why, check my post "Score One For the Good Guys" on 6/26/2011.

Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Baur Garden!

Thanks to my friend, Hans Wortelboer, for sending me these pics today, which he captioned "Only in The Netherlands"!  Photo credits: Senad Grabovac.

In Germany they have "Beer Gardens', but, in The Netherlands: "A Baur Garden"! ;)






















Don't crush those old Baur shells: Plant them!  

Make your own Baur Garden! ;)

I love it!

Thank you, Hans!

E21 Baur #4040 For Sale in Florida!

Thanks to our friend Ron Perry for the heads up on this E21 Baur on eBay, with (claimed) 60K.  It is a 320/6 M20.  We posted this Baur when it was for sale in CA in 2013.  The seller was asking $13,500 at that time*.  It was also spotted in the German Cars for Sale blog** at that time by Wink Cleary.  We have lots of pics of this Baur in our Baurspotting files!  Beautiful example!

Good luck with your sale, CW!    ;)
































Starting bid:
US $13,000.00
0 bids ]
 
Enter US $13,000.00 or more
Price:
US $19,500.00

Condition:Used
Seller Notes:EXCELLENT CONDITION 320/6 BAUR LOW MILES.
VIN (Vehicle Identification Number):WBAAH1103C6972482Year:1982
Number of Cylinders:6Make:BMW
Transmission:ManualModel:

3-Series

Body Type:ConvertibleTrim:2 DOOR BAUR
Warranty:Vehicle does NOT have an existing warrantyEngine:M20-6
Vehicle Title:ClearDrive Type:5 SPEED
Options:Cassette PlayerMileage:60,038
Power Options:Air ConditioningSub Model:BAUR
Fuel Type:GasolineExterior Color:HENNAROT
For Sale By:Private SellerInterior Color:Black

RARE 1982 BMW 320/6 BAUR CONVERTIBLE. #4040
EXCELLENT CONDITION. VERY GOOD ORIGINAL PAINT. SOME TOUCH PAINT DONE DURING LIFE OF CAR, BUT IS MOSTLY ORIGINAL. LOOKS GREAT.
SEATS RECOVERED WITH ORIGINAL MATERIAL.
FOLLOWING DONE ON CAR RECENTLY:
SERVICED BY BMW SERVICE TECH.
TIMING BELT REPLACED AT 59K MILES.
NEW WATER PUMP.
NEW COUNTER SHAFT PULLEY GEAR.
NEW FRONT CRANK SEALS.
NEW A/C COMPRESSOR. A/C BLOWS COLD.
NEW GERMAN MUFFLER.
NEW WEBER CARBURATOR ( ORIGINAL SOLEX COMES WITH CAR)
NEW INTERSTATE BATTERY.
NEW CASSETTE RADIO (NOS)
HAVE SERVICE RECORDS DATING BACK TO THE 80's
CALIFORNIA CAR. NO RUST!
GOOD TIRES. NEWER BRAKE JOB.
JUST TURNED 60 THOUSAND MILES! GARAGE KEPT.
DRIVES GREAT. INSPECTIONS WELCOMED.
CAR IS LOCATED NEAR OCALA FLORIDA.


*http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2013/12/new-baur-4040-on-ebay-wow.html

**http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/1982-bmw-e21-3206-baur-for-sale/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271870668961?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

Thanks again to Ron Perry for the alert!  We will be watching this sale!  Good Luck, CW!

Monday, May 18, 2015

Which Is Which? Lumma vs Baur Cabrio Windshield/Vent Window Angle Comparison

UPDATE:  Thanks to JP Hermes at La Jolla Independent for some close up pics*** of a 1600 Voll Cabrio and Cabrio Targa, showing the vent/windshield angle in both!  Thank you, JP!  Once again, I am indebted to Baurspotters and BMW enthusiasts out there like JP Hermes for their help and input!


We have recently done a feature on a rare 1502 Lumma Cabrio that is for sale in the Boston area*.   We also did a post on a 2002 Cabrio in very sad condition that is currently for sale on Long Island, NY**.   The question has come up as to how to distinguish the factory-authorized Baur Cabrios from the aftermarket Cabrios, such as the Lumma, or the one on Long Island.

The basic difference is that the Lumma conversion cabrios (and other aftermarket conversions) started out as factory coupes, whereas the Baur Cabrios had some specific differences that distinguish them from the factory coupes.  The chassis on the Baurs is slightly smaller than the coupes, but the easiest way to distinguish them is by the windshield.


Lumma vs Baur Cabrio windshield/vent window angle comparison.

 The white Baur has a lower windshield angle and the vent window is fixed.  (Ed. Note:  Since it is actually a 'fixed' window, the term 'vent window' is really a misnomer.)  The intersection of the vent window and the windshield forms a sharp angle.

The yellow Lumma has the standard coupe windshield. The angle is higher, and there is a slight curve at the point of intersection with the top of the vent window, which can open, I believe.  The yellow Lumma is the infamous rusty tii that was in Texas, later in NC, and has since passed from this Mortal Coil, or at least parts of it have;  the white Baur with the top up (below) was owned by Andy S, as was the red Lumma, if I am not mistaken.  Again, note the angle at the vent window.








You can see the windshield angle more clearly on the red Lumma.  Thanks to Andy S. and Mike Pugh for the info.  Here is a link to an interesting discussion about Lummas in the 2002FAQ around the time we discovered that the Lumma from DC had been restored and was now in the Boston area.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/135718-found-the-bmw-1502-lumma-convertible-from-dc/

Here are some pics of the 1502 Lumma that show the curve in the vent window.





This blue cabrio is the one that is currently for sale on Long Island, NY.  It is an example of an aftermarket cabrio, as you can see the curve in the vent window/windshield angle.


I hope this is helpful!  And thanks to Andy, Mike, Jerry and Cindy for sharing the various pics that help us show the differences.



*Link to the 1502 Lumma for sale in the Boston area:
http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2015/05/1502-lumma-cabrio-relisted-for-sale.html

**Aftermarket Cabrio currently for sale on Long Island, NY:
http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2015/05/1974-cabrio-chop-top-on-long-island-ny.html


***Thanks to JP Hermes for these close up pics of the voll cabrio and the Cabrio Targa.  And btw, these are no ordinary examples:  the red Cabrio Targa is the famous M2 that JP sent us the other day, and white 1600 Voll Cabrio is none other than "The Most Famous 1600 Cabrio in the World"!!  That is the Cabrio that was featured in Katy Perry's music video "Teenage Dream"!  Two very special cars!  Both cars are from Carl Nelson's La Jolla Independent in San Diego, CA!  Wow!  Thanks JP!
 The windshield frame ends before making the curve.
 M2 Cabrio Targa.  Notice the slight curve at the intersection of the 'vent'/windshield.


View of the top of the windshield of the 1600 Voll Cabrio.

And here is the perfect pic!  Thanks to JP!
"One more pic. You will notice there is no knob for the vent window, and there is no trim around the forward section of the glass."  JP Hermes.


Compare that to this Lumma open door shot!  Vent window turn knob, trim on the forward section of the window.

Wow.   Done.

Game, set, match, JP Hermes!  ;)




Discussion of Lummas and Baur Cabrios from the 2002FAQ a couple of years ago:
http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/135718-found-the-bmw-1502-lumma-convertible-from-dc/


Saturday, May 16, 2015

1974 Cabrio Chop Top on Long Island NY: Caveat Emptor!

Thanks to Ionic Nrgy and Steve Kirkup for the heads up on this 2002 Cabrio on Long Island.  CAVEAT EMPTOR!  This cabrio does not appear to be a Baur!  Note the vent window/windshield angle:  a Baur would have a 90 angle at the vent window.  This example appears to have a curve at that point which indicates that it is NOT a Baur, but rather an aftermarket conversion/chop top.
































1974 BMW 2002 VIN: 2361428paint color : blue type : convertiblefuel : gas transmission : manualtitle status : clean
"Sold with bill of sale only.
Car is waiting for someone to rebuild.
I have no history other than it was dropped at my place years ago.
It sits as I got it. 
Vin decodes to a production date of 11/74.
there is a motor in it. havent dug much further
Looking for anyone with some interest or can shed some light on what it is besides the obvious."


Taking offers.https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5011524838.html

Thank you, Steve Kirkup!



1949 Spohn Veritas BMW Cabriolet: VIDEOS and More!

1949 Spohn Veritas BMW Cabriolet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cfqshq1Nhk
with a Spohn body.... and 2L Bmw 328 racing engine. Owner doesn't plan to restore it anytime soon.... but its interesting. Spohn was a German body builder who put one-off bodies on anything and everything.... around 200 different Spohn bodies were made each individual and on all kinds of chassis and engine configurations. (there was another Spohn at the show on a modified Ford chassis and with a Ford V8 restored)












VIDEO!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkQo_JcAKTE
1949 German Veritas, with 2-liter BMW 328 racing engine, restored to running order. It can be seen at the Wheels Through Time Museum in Maggie Valley, NC. This Veritas Comet coupe is originally from the Lee Hartung collection.




1950 Veritas SP-90 Specifications

Engine LocationFront
Drive TypeRear Wheel
Coach WorkHermann Spohn


1950 Veritas SP-90 news, pictures, specifications, and information


Coupe
Coachwork: Hermann Spohn
 
From 1948 to 1950, the Veritas was the two liter car to beat on the European racing scene. The Veritas-BMW Hemi six-cylinder engine and four-speed transmission outclassed and out ran the competition during these years, collecting 30 victories and eight National Championships.

This unique Spohn-bodied version is certainly a most unique Veritas. The SP-90's dramatic tail fins and long hood are unique among all other Veritas models.

This car was secluded in the late Lee Hartung Collection for over 50 years. Lee purchased the car in the early 1960's from R.J. Mrofka. Mrofka's brother had brought the car to the United States from Germany in 1959. It remains in 'as found' condition, with only a mechanical rebuild.
Ernst Loof, Georg Meier and Lorenz Dietrich founded the West German Company named Veritas. All three of these individuals brought a wealth of experience. Meier had won the 1939 motorcycle Tourist trophy and Loof was also a motorcycle champion. Loof's resume included a management position in BMW's sports department and Dietrich had also worked for the BMW Company. 

After World War II came to a close, these three individuals began modifying and building vehicles based on BMW components. Since the Allied Forces occupying Germany restricted engine manufacturing to a maximum of one liter, customers would bring their own drivetrain, which would be installed at the factory in Hausern. 

In 1949, the Veritas Company introduced a road-going Komet coupe which was little more than a racing Veritas RS made street legal. This was soon followed by a coupe, cabriolet and sports roadster body styles. The body work was performed by Hermann Spohn Karosseriebau of Ravensburg, known for their work on Maybach chassis. The engines were from BRMW in either stock or modified 326 units or powerplants from the 328. 

Since BMW did not allow the use of their name on cars not of their manufacture, the vehicles were rebadged as Veritas.

This 1950 BMW-Veritas was the work of Hartung Spohn using design inspiration from Harley Earl's Le Sabre concept car. It is an all-original example that is believed to have been returned to Spohn for modifications which included installation of fender skirts and upper grille assembly in the nose. Currently, the car is in original 'barn find' condition.

It was offered for sale at the Lee Roy Hartung Collection auction in 2011 presented by Auctions America. As bidding came to a close, the car had been sold for the sum of $195,500 including buyer's premium.

By Daniel Vaughan | Dec 2011
http://www.conceptcarz.com/z20993/Veritas-SP-90.aspx

Hoarded Marvel: 1949 Spohn Veritas BMW Cabriolet

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/10/11/hoarded-marvel-1949-spohn-veritas-bmw-cabriolet/


Amazing stuff!  Enjoy!