1982 BMW 323i Baur

1982 BMW 323i Baur
Memorial Day 2010 First Drive 1982 323i BMW Baur Lapisblau M20 5 speed #4154 of 4595 made. The car was imported to California by Dietel Enterprises. I have since changed the wheels, installed the clear turn signal lenses, and I am in the process of installing a new cabriolet roof. I have to do something about those bumpers, too. :) I love this car! To see one of the reasons why, check my post "Score One For the Good Guys" on 6/26/2011.

Thursday, October 20, 2016

Opel Kadett C Aero by Baur on ebay UK

Thanks to our friend and fellow Baur owner Kieran Eastwood for this special find!

OK, Baur Aficionados! We have a Mystery Quiz for you today, thanks to our friend and fellow Baur owner Kieran Eastwood in the UK. Kieran sent us this pic today, and we decided to have a little fun with it! Who can identify the version of Baur that has this plate!  ;) Kieran, you mustn't breathe a word, OK?  :) I will be doing a complete post on this Baur.... a little later on. :) It is for sale as we speak. OK, good luck, Baurspotters!

UPDATE:   I posted this little quiz on our Facebook page this morning, and one of the few guys in the world who would know the answer, spotted it and correctly identified this Baur.  Baur Guru Jeroen Janssen of The Netherlands  recognized the '527' as the identifier of the Opel Kadett C Aero by Baur* and posted the quiz answer within about 1/2 an hour!  

Can't fool that guy!  :)  Kudos, Jeroen!  :)

Item location:
Frodsham, United Kingdom

Opel Kadett C Aero Convertible Project Barn Find (similar era Ford Escort)Item specifics

Used: An item that has been previously used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of ... Read more
Year: 1978
Transmission: ManualManufacturer: Opel
Fuel: PetrolModel: Kadett C Aero
Seats: 4Type: Sports/Convertible
Previous Owners: 3Doors: 2
V5 Registration Document: PresentColour: White
Previously Registered Overseas: YesEngine Size: 1,187
Seller comments:

Hello, and welcome to this auction for my Opel Kadett C Aero, the word RARE is used way too often on eBay, but I feel in this case its valid…because:

(*) Only 1242 / 1332 **,  of this car were ever made, each one being made by the coachbuilder Karosserie Baur, and they are all numbered and the main club does record these (link below).

(*) Opel is unusual brand in the UK, as typically GM used Opel in Europe, and Vauxhall in the UK

(*) The Opel Kadett was offered in the UK, but the Vauxhall Chevette was the common offering.

(*) This Aero model was never officially Imported into the UK

(*) We are talking about a car produced in 1976-1978 so they are all around 40 years old!

** - Depending on where you look the numbers made are different, but it seems to be somewhere between 1300 mark, links below:

What follows is a VERY LONG description about this car, I do this so you can get a full understanding of what I have, it took me a couple of days to take all the photos and write this description.  Hopefully you can appreciate this and place bids with full knowledge of the car.  If you read to the end you will know as much as me on this vehicle J

As well as the images on eBay, please see the link that follows, there ae 76 photos in here.

Due to the rareness of this car I’ll describe what it is, I laugh when people do this for mainstream cars on eBay, but I feel is justified in this instance.

This car was produced by Opel, with the body being converted by a coach builder Karosserie Baur, it has a lift out main roof panel, and a folder rear roof giving you a near complete convertible, much more than just a Targa roof.  The all-important top roof panel, rear folding roof, rear roof cover, and in boot mounted roof holding bar are all present, but an overall may be required of these parts as you deem fit during the project.

Due to the cost of the car post conversion it never did sell well, hence the low numbers and the current desirability 40 years on. 

This car has a large following with our European neighbours, and they also fetch very good money when they are sold over there, similar to the hot Fords Escorts of the same era we like here in the UK.

The main club is here, it can be found on the web, and also Facebook.

WEB – Original : http://www.aero-stammtisch.de/

FACEBOOK – Just search for “Opel Kadett Aero”, and click on the “stammtisch” page

A very interesting page on the club is the list of current cars, this is here – 

At the time of writing this advert the 1226 number of my car is not showing, this is as its been forgotten about as I’ve never contacted this club, but as I expect to send a note to the club to see if anyone wishes to buy this car someone may add this to the list perhaps ??

Looking on the web, I’ve found this one for sale @ 17,000 EURO / £15,068 to give you an idea of the investment possibility.

As you can see the car is a left hand drive, but I do have the front end / dash / front sub-frame, and spare engine + gearbox for that matter of a UK car if you wished to do a conversion, all the RED parts in the photos are from this UK car.  All the RED items are included.

Photos of red car parts (main panels shown in white car pictures also)

Back to the original white car (the aero), as you can see this is a project, this was partly stripped and some work has been done by the previous owner, I can see there has been welding done on the front inner wings, the rear arches, and it looks like new sills.  All this is many years old as I’ve had the car since 2003 and nothing at all has been done to it.

I cannot give much other information of  what’s been done as it was not by me, so I assume it will need to be checked over, and as you can see a lot of work is still required. If it was me I would finished the strip down and get the body blasted to see what’s needed. At least floor repairs, new front wings, new front valance, front wing to valance repairs, new bonnet, new doors, new boot, rear wing repairs, new glass (the special Aero side glass however is present and fitted!), trim overall.  

Engine / gearbox wise, I cannot say, there is a spare included that came with the red car.  Lets assume a full overall is needed.

Suspension / Brakes, again I cannot say, but it’s a safe bet it all needs a full overall.  There are 2 Front suspension parts that were in bags and look new that are supplied with the car, but these are new 13 plus years ago so are showing surface rust.  Front pads removed to allow car to roll.

Looking online very quickly a lot panels are available, being as the standard Kadett C was produced in high numbers the standard parts seem well catered for.   

So why am I selling, I’ll be honest I don’t want to as I would of loved to restore this car, but I’m going to be losing my storage, so I would like this to find a new home, being such a rare car I’m loathed to get it scrapped, I know work is needed but I feel it can be saved, and whoever takes this on will end up with a extremely rare car and I expect something with quite a value due to this rarity, link above showing one for sale I found.

The wheels fitted are off a Vauxhall van, as such the offset is wrong, the rear wheels just miss the suspension, but the front were rubbing, there are temporary blocks of wood to space these out to clear with the wheel nuts just holding these on by a few threads.  These wheels are just to allow the car to roll around a workshop, they are not for running on the road.  I’ll try and swap the 2 original Opel steel wheels on the day of collection onto the front to make it a little better for more wheel nut insertion hence safer for transport.

There was a set of 5 GM - ATS  alloy wheels  that came with this car, sorry these are NOT included and are listed as a separate item on ebay (see my other items 15 minutes after I list this, or the link in the revisions section of this listing)  I’m selling these separate to try and get some of my costs back on this car, it cost me a lot to collect this car originally as I needed to move it the same weekend as I knew about it.

I was also well and truly ripped off when I bought the UK Red car, this was in a scarp yard and I agreed to buy it for it to be a template & spares for the restoration of the white car, however the cost quoted more than doubled when I went to pay, and after I paided the guy refused to get it out of the back of the yard that was agreed originally, hence the chopped off front end I have for a possible RHD conversion.

The white Aero car is registered in my name and I have the V5, I also have copies of the old V5 as the car followed me around from house to house.  The current V5 is blue as I’ve not needed to do anything with this car with the DVLA for around 9.5 years.

The car is currently on a X plate, the log book states
(*) Manufactured 1978
(*) Imported 1981
(*) 3 Previous keepers since 1981

As a little treat I also have the original service book with 6 stamps to give some history – All non UK stamps before 1981.

I do have a set of keys labelled up Kadett, I think these are the ones but I’ve not checked.   The boot lock has also been forced at some point.  Let be honest you will likely want to fit a new lockset anyway but the keys I have will come with the car (keys not photographed)

You will need a car with car trailer or single car transporter to move this car, it has NO brakes and wrong wheels so it should not be towed on the road.  The access to the storage can be achieved by the above methods, but it will NOT be accessed by a multi vehicle transporter due to the turns that need to be performed, and also due to the slope of the hill we are on it can be difficult.  If needed I can send some images of the access, size of trailers etc used in the past.

The car is currently in a garage, and I will be there to help shove / lift the car & parts as needed on collection day, but we need at least 2 of us, and ideally more as the car needs to be pushed (its light however), but there is the spare engine with box attached that needs lifting also.
If you need to do 2 runs to collect the spare front end that’s fine, or you may take it all in one go.  I suggest plenty of straps due to the loose items, or a big boot !!

Of course I will need notice as I can do most days with planning, but not all days are possible with other work / personal commitments (both week and weekend), but we can discuss this after the car has been won to find a suitable date for all parties.

To help an enthusiast to get this car I offer the following time scale.

(*) The winning bigger has 4 weeks to pay and collect  the car, cash on collection please, I will expect contact however ASAP after auction end to confirm acceptable date to us both.

(*) If needed I will also hold the car until the end of the year (2016), I will expect payment within the 4 weeks of auction end however, in this case it may be an electronic payment system / cheque – any cheque must be FULLY clear (confirmed by my bank) before car is released.  If you need this extra time offered the winner must communicate this too me ASAP.

(*) Failure to pay within 4 week will result in negative feedback and the car being re-listed, unless this has been discussed & agreed in advance.

(*) Failure to collect the car before the end of 2016 without valid reason will result in car being re-listed, with no refund…..of course if we discussed and it’s been agreed to collect at a future confirmed date then this will not apply.

Due to the demand I will allow one of our European neighbours to buy the car, of course you will be responsible for the shipping , as well as any export issues.  Due to the fall in the GBP to the EURO I expect it may be cheap option to buy this car so please feel free to bid.

I am fair and want the winning bidder to be fair on me, I really want this car to be restored, and hence I’m giving this timescale to help (most listing want cars gone that weekend!).  

After this time the storage issues may become more difficult so I may need to move the car that will entail costs, I really do NOT want to do this hence the strictness above.  

Please see my feedback, 100% positive, so I hope with this and the excessive description you will have trust in what you see.

So there you go, a car to restore, enjoy, and go to the car shows with a highly likelihood of being the only one here in the UK, or restore and sell on as an investment either here or in Europe.

I’ve been on eBay for many many years, no scammers please, no I’ll not refund excessive payments, allow you to pay later etc etc etc…….we all know what the scammers do !!

Thanks for looking, and good luck if you bid.

PS – I would love to see this car completed, please send me photos once done.

PPS – Don’t forget to look at the wheels also listed.

*The Opel Kadett C Aero was produced from 1976 to 1978, with a Baur top. For more info on Baur history, including a pic of the Opel Kadett Aero, check this site:


Here is an Opel Kadett Club site with lots of info:

Thanks, Kieran!  Congrats to Jeroen!

Sunday, October 16, 2016

A 1600 Baur Cabrio on the 16th In '16!

Thanks to our friend John Pantel for sending us these pics of this beautiful 1600 Voll Cabrio by Baur that he spotted at the New Canaan (CT) Cars and Coffee yesterday!

A 1600 Baur Cabrio on the 16th in '16!   Nice one, John!   

Wednesday, October 5, 2016

E21 Baur Body with new sheet metal parts: Sweden!

Thanks to our friend and fellow Baur owner, the intrepid Craig Saxon in Australia, for the link to this Baur project half a world away from him in Sweden!  How does he find these????  Kudos, Craig!  ;)

Here is the text from the ad, translated by Google Translate.  Gotta love the "Starting the nagging about the price so we end call / email conversation directly." part!  :)  

E21 Baur cab Body with new sheet metal parts
Sold by: Fredrik October 4 21:30
View map (Jonkoping)
10 000 -
Have a E21 Baur cab body ståeendes. Absolutely gutted. Just what the images are. Use the metal donor to E21 renovation or building further on this body.

The body is rust repaired a few years ago but has been little surface rust in some places. What was changed was then rear fenders, rear member, front and thresholds plus a little more.

Included with the new windshield, new BMW original hood and two new klokkerholm front fenders.

The price is 10,000 - without discussion. Starting the nagging about the price so we end call / email conversation directly.
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 E21 Baur cab Kaross med nya plåtdelar 
Har en E21 Baur cab kaross ståeendes. Helt rensad. Bara det på bilderna finns. Använd som plåtdonator till E21 renovering eller bygg vidare på denna kaross. 

Karossen är rostlagad för några år sedan men har kommit lite ytrost på vissa ställen. Det som byttes då var bakskärmar, bakstam,fronten och trösklar plus lite mer. 

Medföljer Ny framruta, Ny BMW orginal huv och två NYA klokkerholm framskärmar. 

Priset är 10000:- utan diskussioner. Börjar det tjatas om pris så avslutar vi samtal/mail konversationen direkt.


Thanks, Craig! 

Sunday, October 2, 2016

Uber-Rare Former US-Spec Baur Model For Sale on Ebay! One of Three!

Thanks to our friend and fellow Baur owner Afonso Conceicao for the heads up on this special item!!

14 hours to go  on this one.....  reserve not met! What they do NOT tell you about this Baur..... and I do not understand why! ..... this Baur is one of the 3 original US Spec  Baurs that were imported by BMW to the US.

That is correct. You read that right!  BMW officially imported 25 BMW US Spec E21 Baurs to North America, 22 of which went to Canada!  This Baur is one of the three that came to the US!  It is no longer a US Spec E21, as you can tell from the description.  Baurspotting has known of this Baur for several years now from its previous owner, who commissioned the upgrades.  This Baur is amazingly fast, trust me!

Bidding is currently $15,000, and reserve is not met.  This Baur was advertised at around $26,000+ earlier this year, btw.

I have lots of pics of this car from the previous owner.  This is an amazing car, folks.  Here are two items that you will not find in the current ebay ad, but we have them here at Baurspotting!
First of all, check out that Baur number:  3374. Now look at the following chart, and scroll down until you see it.

Second column on the right, fifth line from the bottom:  "73374".  That is this car.  This list shows the 25 US Spec E21 Baurs officially imported by BMW to North America.  22 of those went to Canada, and only 3 came to the US.  This Baur is one of those 3..... originally delivered to Santa Monica, CA, as you can see in the extreme right column.

This is a collectible, folks.  It is one of three.  It is no longer original, of course, due to the upgrades.  So factor that in as you will.      

Item specifics

Condition:UsedYear: 1982
VIN (Vehicle Identification Number): WBAAH3106C7454064Mileage: 97,719
Number of Cylinders: 6Make: BMW
Transmission: ManualModel: 


Warranty: Vehicle does NOT have an existing warrantyEngine: 2.7 TURBO
Vehicle Title: ClearDrive Type: RWD
Options: Leather SeatsFuel Type: Gasoline
Exterior Color: GrayFor Sale By: Private Seller
Interior Color: BlackDisability Equipped: No
"If you are looking for a classic, rar, fast, and a one-of-a-kind Bimmer, look no further! Over here I have for sale my 1982 BMW 323i BAUR with 98,000 original miles.

This car has been built with all high performance quality parts. There have been no cut corners involved in restoring this classic. All the upgraded and replaced parts on this vehicle were installed brand new! The car has been meticulously maintained and pampered throughout its life. It has been adult driven and always garage kept

The motor was recently built from head to toe by Castro Motorsport, a local highly reputable BMW performance shop. There are only 2,500 miles on the motor after the fresh rebuild, and it runs like clock-work with absolutely ZERO issues. Registration was recently renewed and the car has been smoged.
Engine Specs:
M20 2.7 ETA Bottom End with Ireland Engineering Crank Scraper
Port and Polished Head with a 274 Cam 
Polished OE Rockers

Work that has been done to the car:
Garrett GT30/76R V-Banded Dual Ball Bearing Turbo
New Custom Aftercooler
Custom Intercooler Piping
Custom Heat Exchanger
New Electric Water Pump
New Turbo feed lines and Fittings
New Custom Oil cooler Lines and Fittings
Custom Turbo Down Pipe
New Tail Wastegate
New Tial Blow Off Valve
Full Custom Stainless Steel Exhaust
New custom Radiator
Tuning From Churches
New radiator hose
New Performance Spark Plug Wires
Electric Fan
New Fuel Pump
New Drive Belts
New Big Break Kit
New Performance Diff Mounts
New Poly Training Arm Bushings
New Front Strut Bearing Mount
Lower Suspension Brace
New Subframe Bushing inserts
New rear strut Mounts
New Sway Bar Bushing
New Front Control Arms
New Custom Coolant Expansion Tank
New Performance Clutch
Full Set of Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
New ARP Head Bold Set
New MLS Head Gasket
New Tie Rods
AFR Gauges
New Rear Poly Sway Bar Links
And More.

Original 316 Grilles and Headlights
Original BBS Front Bumper
Original Alpina Wheels
Original Alpina Trunk Spoiler

Alpina Steering Wheel
Alpina Cluster
Sport Seats

OK! Who Needs TC2 Baur Parts? Here is your chance! Parting Out a TC2 in Australia!

Thanks to our friend and fellow Baur owner Craig Saxon for the heads up on this TC2 being parted out in Queensland, Australia!

OK!  who needs TC2 Baur parts?  Here is your chance! 

"E30 318i TC Baur part out. 
Location: Car is in Townsville QLD
Engine cranks and idles for a few seconds. 
PM me for offers on anything you need and I'll let you know if I still have it."

This is listed in the E30 Enthusiasts Australia Facebook page, btw.  You may have to join the page to get access.


Thanks, Craig!